tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post112308125935681916..comments2023-08-10T05:24:20.775-04:00Comments on Razing the Bar: The Messy Church at OneAndy Whitmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04010130934552315074noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-85980917332712572622007-04-19T16:10:00.000-04:002007-04-19T16:10:00.000-04:00Sounds wonderful, Andy. Good for you. Thanks for...Sounds wonderful, Andy. Good for you. Thanks for sharing.sdfgsdfghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11900887347068710335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1125438242417390722005-08-30T16:44:00.000-05:002005-08-30T16:44:00.000-05:00Love the thoughts here.A beautiful, holy mess inde...Love the thoughts here.<BR/><BR/>A beautiful, holy mess indeed. Truly inspiring, Andy, truly thoughtful and inspiring.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06960732995828439466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1124389458929120552005-08-18T13:24:00.000-05:002005-08-18T13:24:00.000-05:00If you didn't go to breathe this year (Joshua Hous...If you didn't go to breathe this year (Joshua House's festival) Jay Pathak gave some *great* messages on some of things you've hit on in this post. You can download them here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.joshuahouse.org/sundays/2005.asp<BR/><BR/>Just click on the breathe links, sessions 2 & 3 I'm pretty sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1123809789329404202005-08-11T20:23:00.000-05:002005-08-11T20:23:00.000-05:00I cried reading your post. The sweet words about ...I cried reading your post. The sweet words about my brother... I'm so proud. My mom would be even prouder. Thank you for valuing him. He is so blessed (as you are) to have such an amazing home for a church, church for a home :) CV remains in my prayers because i know the liar doesn't really like to see that kind of stuff going on. I pray someday I can find community like this.mommy zabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867526867356840793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1123307829532618322005-08-06T00:57:00.000-05:002005-08-06T00:57:00.000-05:00I think that I sounded like I was whining in my pr...I think that I sounded like I was whining in my previous comment...did not mean to do somosiacmindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13369524178269318929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1123273268816205842005-08-05T15:21:00.000-05:002005-08-05T15:21:00.000-05:00wow - your church sounds like what a church is act...wow - your church sounds like what a church is actually to be like. you all are lucky to have a church like that out your way! sadly, they truly are uncommon!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1123219497577983152005-08-05T00:24:00.000-05:002005-08-05T00:24:00.000-05:00I wanted at first to say that I envy those involve...I wanted at first to say that I envy those involved in c.v. yet that is not the right wording at all...i think it is that i long to be involved in a church that i can come as it and also be encouraged to share and help and not have labels put on...I am tired and am rambling..ok. i am exited when i see a church where i think if Jesus was in human form on earth today he would go to. i know too the more healing i go thru the more likely i will be involed myself with a similar church. please do not get me wrong at jh with a few core people in my life i find that acceptennce as i am so it is there just want it to grow and God to grow in me...mosiacmindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13369524178269318929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1123173354898545802005-08-04T11:35:00.000-05:002005-08-04T11:35:00.000-05:00Yeah, Andy T, good stuff....Our church is a hospit...Yeah, Andy T, good stuff.<BR/>...<BR/><BR/><I>Our church is a hospital, and every week I see incoming wounded. But there is an atmosphere where people can be and are open about such things, where they admit their hurts and failures, where they pray together and engage in the painful work of forgiveness and reconciliation and healing, moving beyond the all-consuming Kingdom of Me.</I><BR/><BR/>Thinking a lot about the chuch of Me that I used to belong to for twenty-some years.<BR/><BR/>Other churches in town that lead to no where:<BR/><BR/>church of jazz<BR/>church of white guilt<BR/>church of the stuck in the past<BR/>church of my family sucks<BR/>church of missed opportunities<BR/>church of churches suck<BR/>church of we're moving to europe<BR/>church of the nobody understands me<BR/>church of undeserving<BR/>church of the i chose the wrong career people<BR/>church of the worriers<BR/>church of the super self-conscious<BR/>church of feelers<BR/>church of the gay community<BR/>church of proud homophobes<BR/>church of the haters<BR/>church of the elite artists (invitation only)<BR/>church of the pessimists<BR/>church of the i don't want any new friends<BR/>church of the lush folk<BR/>church of the i don't want to grow up crowd<BR/>church of the music worshipers<BR/>church of the buckeyes<BR/>church of the suburban life<BR/>church of the white-flighters<BR/>church of the control freaks as a lifestyle <BR/>church of the shtick people<BR/>church of downersdanthresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07519939413038295776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1123118687257377922005-08-03T20:24:00.000-05:002005-08-03T20:24:00.000-05:00"Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to ..."Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces..." --Matt. 21:44 (tNIV)<BR/><BR/>We're broken--but by grace, we're used, eh?Andy Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11699578152640919798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1123100671136250062005-08-03T15:24:00.000-05:002005-08-03T15:24:00.000-05:00that was amazing, andy. thank you for putting the ...that was amazing, andy. <BR/>thank you for putting the passion i've developed for these people and this jesus over the past year into words! reading that was a high point in my week--a true gift.<BR/>nikkiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1123094780316556372005-08-03T13:46:00.000-05:002005-08-03T13:46:00.000-05:00Oh man.People have had to put up with such shit, a...Oh man.<BR/><BR/><I>People have had to put up with such shit, and have done such shit to themselves. And who knows where one leaves off and the other begins?</I><BR/><BR/>Thank you for this post Andy. I thank God for you. I've never seen something that I'm a part of so accurately explained. I can't remember feeling so understood. <BR/><BR/>I sat in our home-group last Friday and I looked at the power that was in the room. And I saw it multiplied under the oak trees on Sunday morning. Such power, just like you describe.<BR/><BR/>Your post has raised the bar. Maybe I'll stop bullshitting when people ask me "How are you?" and instead of my usual answer I'll say, "I'm healing, thank you."danthresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07519939413038295776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1123089317266617262005-08-03T12:15:00.000-05:002005-08-03T12:15:00.000-05:00good stuff andy and amen.ps. you can always tell ...good stuff andy and amen.<BR/><BR/>ps. you can always tell people that it isn't a hearing aid, rather it is an in-ear monitor, so you are always ready to hit the stage to sing some classic covers whenever the mood strikes.mghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02279451510520504251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9991864.post-1123083628855094992005-08-03T10:40:00.000-05:002005-08-03T10:40:00.000-05:00wow. thanks for writing that andy. i agree with yo...wow. thanks for writing that andy. i agree with you. and i love our church too.<BR/><BR/>oh, and the hearing aid is very stylish. don't let anyone tell you anything different. you're cutting edge. :DKarenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03873045531201669483noreply@blogger.com